HALF HOUR with Jeff & Richie (An Entertainment Podcast)

MUNA, Drag Pop, PRIDE! and New Artist Picks! (Pop Episode)

June 24, 2022 Two Worlds Entertainment Episode 61
HALF HOUR with Jeff & Richie (An Entertainment Podcast)
MUNA, Drag Pop, PRIDE! and New Artist Picks! (Pop Episode)
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In this weeks podcast, Jeff & Richie bring you a PRIDE! episode featuring:

MUNA and their self-titled third album MUNA. Take a dive with Jeff & Richie into the world of MUNA as they have a casual conversion on what it means to go from a major record label to an indie label, create music in the LGBTQ+ space, and see what they think MUNA's longevity in the industry is. 

Jeff & Richie then move the discussion over to DRAG POP, a conversation on Drag Queens that are owning the 2022 Drag Pop space.  (Follow the POP PLAYLIST here). Tracks discussed include:
RuPaul - "Supermodel"
Priyanka featuring Lemon - "Come Through"
Alaska featuring Stephanie's Child - "Girlz Night"

New Artist Picks of the week include: (Follow the NEW ARTIST PICKS PLAYLIST here)
Rina Sawayama - "This Hell"
VINCINT - Taste So Good (The Cann Song) [Hayley Kiyoko, MNEK, and Kesha]
Kelechi - just another song (Featuring Vincent)
Zava - H.O.E. 
Madison Rose - Valentino 

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Richie [00:00:03] Half hour. 


Jeff [00:00:08] Hello and welcome to Half Hour, an entertainment podcast through two worlds entertainment. I'm Jeff and. 


Richie [00:00:13] I'm Richie. 


Jeff [00:00:14] And we're here to bring you a casual conversation on the shows, films, concerts and music that we see, listen to and observe throughout our careers. Today's conversation will feature current pop music hits from the second half of June, so you can follow along and listen to the music we are discussing by going to our Instagram and TikTok accounts @halfhourpodcast and click the link in our bio to save and listen to this curated playlist. Today is the start of Pride Weekend. Happy Pride, y'all. So we're mostly featuring a lot of music from different artists in the LGBTQ plus community. So this is the Everything Pride podcast. Hey, girl. Hey, hey, girl. Hey. We're going to start today with our artist Spotlight, and that's on Muna. Muna is releasing their self-titled album this today, this Friday. And this is their third effort with Muna releasing their third effort today, a just in time for Pride weekend. Let's take a look back at some of Muna's history in the pop industry. So just to let you all know, Muna is a trio by Katie Gavin, Josette Maskin and Naomi McPherson. They were originally signed to RCA Records, to which they later were dropped after their second album, Muna has now signed with Phoebe Bridgers Satisfactory Records, which is an indie label, and on this label they started with releasing silk chiffon that featured Bridgers, and this immediately put them back on the map for me. What? When you hear a story like this, Richie, what do you think? How do you think artists should immediate? Do you think artists should immediately sign to the label or should they go indie first? 


Richie [00:02:01] That's a difficult question for me. I guess the short answer to that would be that's. I think they should just take whatever opportunity comes their way. 


Jeff [00:02:12] Okay.


Richie [00:02:13] I don't really know if it's. If I don't know. I just think that you should. I don't really know if there's much of it. I understand the industry. I just think that if an opportunity comes your way, you should take it regardless of whether it's a label, whether it's indie. 


Jeff [00:02:30] Of course. Yeah. I think what's interesting right now is they were on this huge record label, RCA, and they put out two albums with similar music to this new album that came out today. And it seems that the label didn't want to get behind them on their first two efforts. And now that they're on a more like indie side of things and Phoebe Bridgers even was featured on their first single on this new label, it's like starting to take off. The gay community is getting very behind them and they're having fun now, it seems, with their with their music. And it's even funny because this music video has an ode to a famous LGBT cult film. Did you get the reference?  


Richie [00:03:15] Yeah! The Silk Chiffon music video. Yeah. I'm a cheerleader movie, which was very, very cool to see that in which video was smart. 


Jeff [00:03:21] And we had just watched that, that film recently, which is funny to see because I was like, Oh, wait, I'm watching the video. And I'm like, this. I this looks similar to something that I already know and I think the song. What do you think of that song? 


Richie [00:03:35] I like social chiffon out of all a lot of them that they've released. That's one of my favorite ones I really like. I think that's from the slow piano start in the beginning. Me Yeah, I really like that a lot. 


Jeff [00:03:44] And it's cute. It's definitely about like love interest between two women, or it could be between anyone, which was just nice and it's nice to see that representation. I think in the music industry right now, it's for me it seems the Muna is taking direction in all the right ways, especially with the release of releasing a album that's featuring a lot of queer anthems. And they also just covered, I think we talked about this recently, but they just covered Britney Spears's sometimes for the Fire Island film. 


Richie [00:04:15] Yeah. And I feel like that's kind of what's put them on the map a little bit is something big like that. Yeah. You know, when you in terms of this group becoming bigger in the pop industry, my thoughts are that. You know, you want your song heard in a movie or heard somewhere famous to kind of get it found. I hear the version of Sometimes in the Fire Island Movie and I say, Oh, okay, now who are they? And I think a lot of people maybe did that. Who is this group? And I think that helps them for sure. 


Jeff [00:04:45] Well, that's an interesting take on that, because that's like that's kind of always what a pop model has been a lot of like the nineties big pop stars. They started with doing a soundtrack song to a film during that time. Like I'm thinking like Christina Aguilera did reflection for Mulan and now seeing and then what happened to her after that. She became this like superstar in the pop industry. She did that and then came out with Genie in a bottle right after. So it's almost like Muna's like kind of having their restart in the pop space. They they're coming out and put out this album with fun BOP songs, and they also get on a queer movie that's kind of going mainstream now. On covering Britney Spears sometimes, which is was already a hit. So it's like that repetitive, like, Oh, I know that song. And now who are these girls? Right. You know, which is cool. I really like seeing that. And for me, like, I've already been a big fan of silk chiffon. I was a fan of Home by now, and I really like anything but me, so I can't wait to really hear this whole album over and over again now that it's finally released. 


Richie [00:05:57] Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think it'll be great. 


Jeff [00:05:59] What it. So do you like any of these Muna singles? And do you feel like this music is pop pop enough for you? 


Richie [00:06:08] I like silk chiffon and I like to sometimes cover. I think they're very cool. Pop enough. I mean, sure. I don't know. I don't know. There's so many subgenres of pop. That's a broad statement, I feel like. Yeah. Is it popular? Could it be popular if that's what you mean? I don't think I'm going to be singing these songs every day, you know. 


Jeff [00:06:33] But where would you listen to some of these songs? I feel like that's like a special place that I listen to. We did that for Harry Styles. 


Richie [00:06:44] So, yeah. So you you. 


Jeff [00:06:46] Listen to these songs. 


Richie [00:06:48] Like in in a movie or in the car like yeah, I wouldn't yeah. 


Jeff [00:06:52] You wouldn't normally put it on. 


Richie [00:06:54] Maybe. I think it needs to grow on me a little bit, but I like it. I don't. I don't not like it. 


Jeff [00:06:59] Yeah, that's good. Do you see Muna having, like, this thriving pop industry career, or do you kind of just see them staying in, be like, oh. 


Richie [00:07:09] I guess it comes down to what their next thing is. If they do a concert and they keep putting music in movies, do they release new music? I guess it just comes down to what they. Do? Yeah. 


Jeff [00:07:22] Yeah.


Richie [00:07:24] I don't know. It's hard because, like, indie versus pop, like, why are those two separate things? You can't have indie pop. You know, I. 


Jeff [00:07:33] Know you could, but I'm talking about, like, mainstream pop. I think, like when you hear artists take a sound and make it their own, but they're pop artists. Like, for example, Beyoncé just releasing this new song. She is she is a pop star, but she's releasing a house song with a house beat. So a lot of people are saying, is it pop or is it house? And I'm saying, no, it's pop music influenced by house like so they're pop, but they're making like indie alternative music, but it's like they're already popular. I'm talking about Muna now, so it's like they're just influenced by that indie sound. But I'm wondering if they do cross more into this pop, pop, pop world where people, like become huge fans and they go to all their shows and they buy everything that they they put out. I'm just wondering if they go that route or they're just more like a jam band.  


Richie [00:08:30] I don't... Yeah. I don't know, because I feel like we're leaning more towards, like, the artist singular. Yeah. And versus groups. Yeah. I don't know. We just read the other day that that BTS group is all be going solo now and so it's like everybody's kind of doing their own thing. I feel like groups ebb and flow. I feel like ten years ago groups were kind of big and 15 years ago and and now it's like, okay, everyone, I so I don't know how this group does. 


Jeff [00:09:00] It would be interesting to see. I definitely think they have potential. I think they're they're just on the right mark. They're very like old school, not old school, but like early twenties, like Vanessa Carlton and Michelle Branch, like some of those. 


Richie [00:09:16] But you're naming individual people. 


Jeff [00:09:18] That are visual, I would say might sound. 


Richie [00:09:21] Yeah. By somebody you're talking about a group. It's I don't know. I don't know. I'll say, yeah, I'm neither here nor I don't. 


Jeff [00:09:29] I guess the word thrive. I don't know if they're necessarily going to thrive, but they're going to I think they're going to have no success. Can it be. 


Richie [00:09:36] Chill, pop? Can we create our new subcategory and call it Chill Pop? Because I feel like that's Chill Pop. 


Jeff [00:09:43] Like lo fi pop. Yeah, like, all right. Maybe that's going to be the next genre, like, soft pop the next. 


Richie [00:09:50] We don't have so many versions, although. 


Jeff [00:09:51] I think it's going to have to be house pop because all of these artists are starting to create house music. 


Richie [00:09:56] I'm going to create Broadway pop. 


Jeff [00:10:00] We're going to have a full Broadway pop episode. 


Richie [00:10:02] What would that be? It would be like little mixes of showtunes. 


Jeff [00:10:06] I mean, it would be people that have worked in the Broadway space like Dove, Cameron and Renee Rap. 


Richie [00:10:10] Yeah, I guess. Yes. 


Jeff [00:10:12] Ashley Park, you know, and naming all the Broadway Pop Girls. 


Richie [00:10:17] Yeah, maybe that's kind of cool. It'd be cool. 


Jeff [00:10:20] Speaking of Pop, let's move over to our genre portion of this and this pride episode. We're going to be talking about drag queens and pop music. What's the genre? Drag Pop.


Richie [00:10:33] Another subculture. 


Jeff [00:10:35] It's drag pop. I'm so now this is something I've definitely been seeing a lot of industry in the industry right now, and I think we have RuPaul to thank for this. But drag queens making pop music is so big. And I think what's really interesting is like I'm starting to see some of these drag stars like winners or even if they were just on RuPaul's Drag Race seasons, starting to make music and it's starting to trend and go viral, which I think is super cool. And I think we have an app like Tik Tok to thank for that. But you know, RuPaul has been around for so long. I think his Supermodel of the World album came out in the early nineties, which had, you know, CoverGirl, you better work on it. And something that's so interesting for me and I wanted to bring this up was like, we've had that song with us for a really long time. I think the first time we've heard it was in Disney Channel, original movie life size with Tyra Banks and Lindsay Lohan. So I think it's really cool that that song has set so much of longevity in the industry with RuPaul being a drag queen and that song having success, and then it going into RuPaul, having RuPaul's Drag Race and then keep releasing music after each season. And I think RuPaul is someone that's super interesting because RU keeps up with the trends in pop music. Any time there's a certain trend, you know, the RuPaul sound is going to have that genre behind it. What do you kind of think about RuPaul and like RuPaul's Decisions? Who's helping RuPaul with these smart, calculated careers in the industry? Do you think that's really coming from the. Drag Race culture. 


Richie [00:12:22] Over RuPaul is a team of people, and I think RuPaul is keeping up. And sometimes we have to remember that RuPaul had a music career long ago and was always invested in that during, before and well during the drag time of his life long ago, but also wanting the music career. And I think music has always been a really important part of RuPaul's life. So I feel that continuing that into his older life and with the show makes sense. I mean, one of the challenges every season on RuPaul is to create an original song or to make a music video to his song, or to write a lyric to a new song and create choreography. And it's the show aspect of it. So I think I think music is a big part of his world and his life and will continue to. 


Jeff [00:13:09] Be, you know. And I think that's really cool because I feel like we have a lot of those drag superstars coming out of here making music. But also while, like you said, while they're on the show, they have to record songs. And we've had some big songs come out of the show, especially things like Kitty Girl and Big Bang Bong and the Frock Destroyers that now tour as crew and things like that. And those have had such an impact in the industry. And I do want to talk about two different artists from that are Drag Race alumni, one being Priyanka from Canada's season one Drag Race, who won Priyanka is making moves in the industry with her single Come Through, which features another Drag Race alumni. LEMON And what I find really interesting about this song is that lemons verse is what has gone viral on TikTok. So now they have a song going viral because there's a TikTOk dance happening to it. And this is drag queen music. Well, you know, I always ask you this question about TikTok, but how do you think a platform like Tik Tok might help take drag queens music to the next level? 


Richie [00:14:21] Well, I feel like. Ya know. 


Jeff [00:14:24] I'm always going to get you on the tik tok bandwagon. 


Richie [00:14:27] I feel like it's it's a social media platform, so wherever the music can live. And I think that if it's going to live there and it's going to be successful and people will make silly videos to it or serious videos to it or whatever they're going to do with it. I think Tik Tok Instagram, anywhere that you can play this music is going to be important for any artist, not just a drag queen necessarily. I mean, I'm finding the, you know, for this song with Priyanka, I think I'm finding a lot of drag queen music to be very. Like aggressive and hard and angry and loud and demanding and vocal. And every time a new drag queen releases a song, it's like, Oh, and it's very aggressive. The lyrics are aggressive, the beat is aggressive. And I'm finding that more and more. And I feel like the lightness of when you hear things like bing, bang, bong, and some of that that's on the show. But I'm talking about the songs that these drag queens put out on their own. They have been very sexual lately and they've been very like anger. I feel like they're just full of this aggressive anger. I don't know how to say it. And so I've noticed that more and more. Like when you hear some of these songs. 


Jeff [00:15:42] Yeah, I think that's kind of the style that has been influence, like the club scene for a while now, like these certain trap beats or like just maybe some hip hop influenced beats in there as well. But I think a lot of I don't know if necessarily most of the drag queens can actually sing. 


Richie [00:16:00] Yeah, it does sound like there's a lot of heavy influence on Auto-Tune and technical elements in these songs, too. 


Jeff [00:16:06] And if they can't really sing, they probably go more to like talk singing or rapping, which is fine. Yeah. 


Richie [00:16:13] But do you where does where do they want to be? Where do they want this music to go? Do they want it in the clubs? People dancing to it? Do they want a leisurely heard on Tik Tok? Are they making it for Tik Tok? 


Jeff [00:16:25] They might be. I think it's a funny thing that I've watched with Priyanka on Tik Tok is like that. Her part doesn't even go viral, but Lemon's part did go viral, so she's like, I made this whole song, and it's. It's the lemons part that happened. Yeah, but the funny part is, like, in the music video with Lemon, she's doing this thing with, like, her hands going like this. 


Richie [00:16:47] Okay.


Jeff [00:16:48] And that's the part that people always use and reuse. So it's just a funny thing. Yeah. But yeah, that's yeah. Good, good points there. And lastly, Alaska did a song called Girlz Night with Stephanie's Child, and Stephanie's child has rosé. It has Jan and their partner in Laguna Blue. So it's another trio. We have Muna trio in the beginning, and now we have another trio here. This song I think is super fun and I definitely think it's like a BOP. Does this move away from what you were just talking about in terms of? 


Richie [00:17:25] This one does, yeah. And I feel like it's got this girl group sound very fifth harmony esque feeling to me. And I really like that. That's more of a lighter pop that seems a little more. 


Jeff [00:17:40] It's kind of very upbeat. 


Richie [00:17:41] And energetic and lighter. 


Jeff [00:17:43] Like bang bang. 


Richie [00:17:45] Yeah, yeah, yeah.  


Jeff [00:17:47] Like Arian Grande. Yeah, this was fun. 


Richie [00:17:48] Yes, it is. Like. Yeah, I see. Like when you. 


Jeff [00:17:50] Want to know a fun fact about this song. This music video was filmed the night we went to the Dua LIPA concert at one of the gay bars in New York City called, I think, Motel 23. 


Richie [00:18:03] Okay. Yeah. 


Jeff [00:18:05] They were doing I saw Alaska Post about it that to come to the after party at Motel 23 because we're going to be filming the music video. And I didn't think about it at the time because we kind of totally went and saw this music video get recorded or been part of the music video. But yeah, I thought that was it. Yeah.


Richie [00:18:23] Yeah, for sure. 


Jeff [00:18:24] Fun fact. Yeah. Do you love the music of the Drag Race alumni? 


Richie [00:18:30] Um, yes and no. I didn't really listen to it. I follow their life journey and I much rather be watching them do stand up live and a concert or do choreographed numbers live or be appearing on All Star Season's or going to their drag shows in New York City or Fire Island or P-Town or wherever they go. That, to me is a lot more enjoyable than like sitting and listening to all of their music. 


Jeff [00:18:57] Unless its, The Jinx and Day Long Holiday Show. 


Richie [00:19:00] Sure. I feel like, yeah, I'm not I don't I understand there's money and that when they put music out, I always find, yes, some of them are legitimate singers and some of them are not. And so I understand that everybody kind of wants to do this regardless of how their voice sounds, because putting music out, getting streams and making money is a way to make money as a performer and entertainer, of course. But I would say, like some of it, I actually what I really like the most is the RuPaul songs that are put out. I do like those. I like the way they're written. I like how they feature a lot of them. And I like listening back to the RuPaul seasons. 


Jeff [00:19:37] That features the Queens. Yeah, yeah. I think that's I think we kind of like that maybe a little bit more because we're connected to what's happening. We watch the show, we. 


Richie [00:19:46] And we're. 


Jeff [00:19:46] Part of the process and then we get to hear the finished product. I think that's it's a cool thing and it's actually kind of I'm thinking about it now like an ode to what MTV is to do with music videos. When I was growing up and you were growing up too, but you used to be able to watch the making of the music video. So I feel like RuPaul, we're watching the making of the song and you're so connected to it that you finally want to hear it at the end. And then you're like, Yes, it's so good. So yeah, what's what I think what's kind of really cool right now in pop music, too, is like we've come a very long way with pronouns in the industry today and we see like a lot of high profile acts like Halsey and Demi Lovato opting, adopting them and using same sex pronouns in songs that are played on the radio I think is super interesting. Lil Nas X, of course, is another example. Dove, Cameron, Hayley Kiyoko They're all artists that are making music right now with queer themes. They're breaking gender boundaries in mainstream pop, which I think is so cool. What? Just hearing this, like, how important do you think this is for the LGBTQ community right now? 


Richie [00:20:58] I think it's very important. I think music industry can do this for the community. The music industry always has been a really safe space and an a groundbreaking outlet for performers and entertainers and people in the industry, always from way back in the day. So I feel like that's very important. And I think that if there is a space for people to find comfort in their pronouns or their identity, that the music space would be a space, the theater space as well. Any sort of entertainment art space involves so many members of the LGBT community. 


Jeff [00:21:32] Yeah, I think that's the most important thing right now too, because we keep hearing at times certain things like governments trying to ban like drag queens in live events or kids at drag queen events saying it's inappropriate. And just like music in general, I think recently I just saw this morning too, like LGBT books should be banned in libraries from children being able to read them. I'm like, this, this sounds crazy. So for me, it's like, what's next is something like, Oh, we don't want to have this music being played here because kids might listen to it or something like that. So I think it's super important that these artists are breaking boundaries and becoming more mainstream so that everyone can kind of. 


Richie [00:22:13] It's interesting you mentioned that Dove Cameron boyfriend because that's an interesting you know she she being a woman identifying as a female saying I can be a better boyfriend. Right. She says that. So that does play with the gender. 


Jeff [00:22:26] That it's breaking gender because that's how you interpret that song. You know, if you listen to that song, you might be saying, oh, is she saying she wants to date a woman? 


Richie [00:22:36] Or what you find within the LGBT community? A lot, the LGBTQ community a lot that there is also a sense of like a lot of gay men will call other gay men like she and her in the end of, Oh, that's my best judy, or that's my, you know, old friend. Are you a friend of Dorothy? There's all those references to females and things like that. So the gender flux is a lot of the community already too, you know. 


Jeff [00:23:03] Totally well since it is Pride Month. Before we get to our BOP or FLOP, I do want to ask you one big question. Okay. What is your favorite pride anthem? 


Richie [00:23:15] Oh, my gosh. Do you know? It's difficult, man. There's so many. 


Jeff [00:23:24] I feel like you could pick new school and old school pride anthems. 


Richie [00:23:28] I don't know, like, does the song have to exactly be talking about? Like, cause I like songs that are, like, just, like, fun. I don't know. I know that's a hard question. If I had to choose one, I know this might be a little a little stereotypical. 


Jeff [00:23:43] He's going to be like, Wait, can I say no? 


Richie [00:23:46] Or maybe why? 


Jeff [00:23:47] I feel like you've picked something like Abba's Dancing Queen. 


Richie [00:23:50] Well, I was thinking about, but I was like directly anthems. Although it's so popular to the time, I really think that I'm coming out is just such a really great Diana Ross. 


Jeff [00:24:04] Of course that a Pride Anthem. 


Richie [00:24:05] Think of that. I know it's so stereotypical, but it's like, How did that woman sing that song at that time? And you could not think that that was about coming out like me, because everyone says, Oh, it could be what? I'm coming. What is she saying? I'm coming put. I want the world to know. I got to let it sound so pride. And to me, to me that when I hear that song, I seem to hear it most in June. And I feel like it makes it just kind of gives you that feeling of like, Oh. 


Jeff [00:24:29] Well, it's definitely been adopted by Pride. 


Richie [00:24:31] Yeah, but I probably get so meant for that and I just think I know it's stereotypical, but I really like that song. I would say. I would say maybe that would be one of my if. 


Jeff [00:24:41] Of course I almost put that down for mine. I actually, I, I'm going back and forth between two. 


Richie [00:24:47] Okay.


Jeff [00:24:48] One, I think George Michael's freedom. Oh, that's like a liberating song. I actually was listening to it while I was walking the dog this morning. I was like, Oh, this is so. You know, he's such an important person in the community. And I think some of the music that he put out was so important. But I also like I'm going to go a little Broadway on here and I'm from LA cause I am what I am. And Gloria Gaynor then doing like the more mainstream version and which I love that storyline of like theater going pop and like we need more of that. But I think there's something so I probably won't put I am what I am at the top for my Pride anthem because it's just. 


Richie [00:25:29] Like great. 


Jeff [00:25:30] Song. It's what we are, you know. 


Richie [00:25:32] Great lyric and it's like from a great show. 


Jeff [00:25:34] You know, maybe New School, we don't really get a lot of pride anthem we. 


Richie [00:25:38] Get born this way from Lady Gaga, but I also think you need to calm down from Taylor Swift. It's kind of becoming pride, anthemy, in what she's saying there.


Jeff [00:25:47] But I'm thinking like more from like LGBTQ plus artists. They're starting to make more of the music that's just like every day music. They're not sitting there making a pride anthem, right? Because they already are the Pride anthem. But I'm like, it's so interesting because as of right now, we get like more pop star things that are becoming more like anthems. Like you said, Lady Gaga's Born This Way, or like even Katy Perry's Roar is considered. 


Richie [00:26:17] Like, yeah, a. 


Jeff [00:26:17] Pride.


Richie [00:26:18] Anthem or Sara Baralis brave it's been lately been considered really pretty pride after me too so you're getting it I also think you have to. You can't forget, like what the Village People did long ago was like so iconic to like just them in general. They in the song came up on my playlist was like called Fire Island. They did a song about Fire Island and I was like, Oh, I want to make a cool use of that song in the movie that just came out. But I was like, Oh, I listen to lyrics like, Oh, some of this is still true today on Fire Island. I like the references they're making. So I was like, Oh, village people. Like, there we go. I mean, they. 


Jeff [00:26:50] Have, like, Charlie XCX's boys. 


Richie [00:26:53] Yeah.


Jeff [00:26:55] But it's like the pop girl is they're making all of these, like, you know, queer theme songs. And I'm like, okay, I'm for it. So let's go to the final portion of this podcast. We have our five artists. All five artists are in the LGBTQ plus community, just so you know. And we're going to get the BOP or flop opinion from Mr. Richie. Y'all already know my opinion. I picked the song, so I know that they're a bop 


Richie [00:27:26] Think that they're. 


Jeff [00:27:28] It's a BOP when I say its a BOP. Okay. Anyway. Okay. First one and we actually watch the music video to this one too recently and I want to get your opinion on that. But Rina Sawayama is this This Hell. 


Richie [00:27:43] Love it. Obsessed. Love the video. I listen to it like multiple times. It might be my favorite bop out of all of these that you put. 


Jeff [00:27:50] Okay, well, this song, Super Bowl. I'm a super bop. This will. 


Richie [00:27:55] Be bop. That was a character from Barnie. So I don't know why. 


Jeff [00:28:02] I literally. Yeah, I literally can't. Okay. Okay. So that's also when we were just talking about the whole Pride anthem thing. This could be an anthem this year. I mean, the music video, very catchy. It's literally talking about what she sees in the in the world today with people going against the gay community. So, I mean, I just living and saying, guess what, we're all going to hell. So come join us. 


Richie [00:28:29] Right. Right. I love that. I really, really love it. And it's so catchy. 


Jeff [00:28:33] So catchy. Okay, Vincent tastes so good. 


Richie [00:28:37] Bop. Love it. But I really like Vincent, too, and I really like it. 


Jeff [00:28:41] You know what's so funny about this song? And you probably don't even know this, but it's a commercial. 


Richie [00:28:46] Oh, from what? 


Jeff [00:28:47] It's for this soda. 


Richie [00:28:50] And.


Jeff [00:28:50] Yeah, that's why I say so. But the video actually features. It features Kesha. It feels Hayley Kiyoko. It features like the top five from the last season of RuPaul. It's just I actually find it so interesting because I think what this song is doing is obviously a bop. But what this song is doing is like what Britney did for Pepsi. Like the Pepsi commercial song was so big that they're trying to almost mimic that in a way. And I think it works. Also, Gus Kenworthy was in the video, which was interesting, but. 


Richie [00:29:23] Okay.


Jeff [00:29:24] Okay, Khalechi. Just another song. 


Richie [00:29:27] Yeah, bop, bop. I like definitely feature Vincent. 


Jeff [00:29:30] Actually, yes, it does. It does feature Vince. And I feel like this is Vincent's little I don't know if best friend or like little protege, but like, so good. You have to watch the music video. Yeah, he is just jumping into the scene here. So, like, let's see where this goes. Because I love bop music. 


Richie [00:29:47] Yeah, yeah, yeah, bop. 


Jeff [00:29:49] Okay. Zava or Zava? Uh. 


Richie [00:29:53] H0e I'm putting it on the flop list. Oh, I like oceans I didn't like. I mean, I liked it, but I it. I can't hear the lyrics. I'm sorry. When you're making your own, I'm going to judge a song based on if I can even hear you. When the bass and the instrumental is so loud and I can barely hear what they're saying halfway through, I'm like, I'm done. I don't know what you're saying. I have to read lyrics on a piece of paper to follow along with your song. Like, I would like to hear what you're saying. Okay. I thought the production value wasn't and it kind of turned me off to it. So not a huge fan of unfortunate I'm putting around on the flop. 


Jeff [00:30:29] Well, I'm a fan, so. And lastly, we have Madison Rose Valentino. 


Richie [00:30:35] I was really on the fence with this one. I had to listen to it a few times. I feel like it's flop bop border like on the fence. Like I'm kind of like, is it a floppy bop? I would just say that's. 


Jeff [00:30:48] A floppy bop. 


Richie [00:30:49] It's like it's a bop, but it's a little floppy. No, I mean, it's good. I just I something's missing in the song for me. There's something missing to make it a true bop. I don't know what it is I like it, I don't hate it. 


Jeff [00:31:05] Can't win em all. 


Richie [00:31:06] Those are my two. So that's like floppy bop all the other all. 


Jeff [00:31:10] You like her other songs so. 


Richie [00:31:11] I do I that's fine. Well, hey, listen, I'm going to be honest in the bops or flops, you know. Okay, that's it. And then some. 


Jeff [00:31:19] Flop meaning like it's not a bad song, but he just probably doesn't see it going anywhere. 


Richie [00:31:25] I tell the others, I do the Zava H.O.E In the Madison Rose, you know, they're okay. That's all she. 


Jeff [00:31:33] Writes and that's all, folks. Oh, we hope you enjoyed this pride filled podcast. Now go out and celebrate and enjoy. I want to thank you all for listening. We hope you enjoyed this podcast too. Please subscribe to our podcast on Spotify and Apple Music. Leave us a review if you love what you heard, but only if you loved what you heard. We also want you to join our conversation and engage with us. Head over to our Instagram and TikTok @halfhourpodcast and comment on the latest post about this podcast episode. We would really love, love, love, love to hear from you. Engage with us. But until next time. 


Richie [00:32:09] I'm Jeff and I'm Richie. 


Jeff [00:32:11] We're signing off. 


Richie [00:32:12] Bye.

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